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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 13-  GUM IN THE MACHINE When is it time to pivot? What’s this podcast about? Who is stuck in the sunk costs quagmire? Katie shares her $150K mistake and why you should still listen to her. Amanda reveals her new yard …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 12-  OH HAIL! There is also some yodeling What’s this podcast about? Is intergenerational warfare really necessary? Katie and Amanda say, “No!” They discuss the opportunities they got when they were young lasses growing …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 11-  COMMITTED What you say to yourself matters. What’s this podcast about? What would your May self tell your July self? (Especially in the green industry.) This was recorded during crunch time and is airing after the …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 10-  Big Dumb Vacuums Imaginary gift certificates What’s this podcast about? Amanda gets herself into 437 initiatives. She says she’s not actually ambitious, she just sees big dumb vacuums. How much emotional labor is …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 9- LOCAL COLOR LOOK AT THAT What’s this podcast about? Green chilis for everyone! Katie talks about lessons learned from her time in New Mexico, including bathrooms. Can you teach people to be …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 8- SEROTONIN FOR MONEY Create a Garden Wonderland What’s this podcast about? Last in the episode but first in Katie's priority list: Check out the GORGEOUS new book "Garden Wonderland" by Leslie Bennett and Julie Chai. Katie …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 7 - Cringe Mountain Make your art What’s this podcast about? A post-eclipse episode that will still be fun two months later. Katie and Amanda talk about why unscripted social media is important, how Amy Stewart is Katie's …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 6 - Adventureland! Wired for Novelty What’s this podcast about? Katie shares her Harry Styles origin story. Amanda brings up the Apple Surcharge when boosting posts from the app and why you might or might not want to boost …

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Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda Episode 5 - SPACE There actually IS crying in business What’s this podcast about? During episode 5 Katie made Amanda cry, but it was a good cry. Katie discussed how she crawled out of her worst year (personally) of business, 2022, …

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