Open & Awkward: Shop Talk with Katie & Amanda
Open & Awkward: Season 2 Episode 8 – TEMPORARY OBSESSIONS
Finding a New Rhythm
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In this episode, Amanda talks about her recent trip to Dollywood and the garden cleanup that didn’t happen. Plus a canceled visit with her friend Andrew that opened up time to catch up on life and work. Katie returns from a heavy family trip only to sprain her ankle, (because of course she did). They discuss burnout, how Katie is redefining her work-life balance, and a coincidental conversation about the new book Garden to the Max… edited by none other than Andrew! It’s a week of plans that didn’t pan out, the whiplash of spring in our industry, and making peace with Plan B.
Highlights:
- The internet is great!
- People are afraid of messy.
- The Cultivate Stealth Workshop.
- Planting BIG!
- Katie deals with burnout and boundaries.
- Has Amanda’s business become her personality?
- Amanda’s Dollywood trip.
Links:
Katie and Amanda’s Stealth Workshop at Cultivate
Garden to the MAX by Teresa Woodard
Clark de Mornay’s patio in San Francisco
Amanda’s April 2025 Green Profit article
The Stuff at the End
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